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jimmyhoffa




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To have "no structure" (implied in the word "anarchy") is to have every structure, simultaneously. Like how you can imagine yourself in a large sphere and at it's center, looking out at a point on it's surface closest to you. There is always one single radius of the sphere which is your viewpoint, defined as the line traced from the center to the edge. A single viewpoint is like a simple, single structure and is replicated again in all manner of "-ism", "-ist", "-ology" and yes, even "-archy" categories. Seeing the surface of the sphere in every direction simultaneously doesn't sit easily with our simple visual brains but it is nevertheless a logical possibility.

Another way to see the same sphere is from outside it, at a distance. We take for granted the mental image we can form of a sphere in (a) three-dimensional space. We have a single perspective on the sphere. It is possible to imagine seeing that sphere (i.e. reality, the world, ourselves) from any one of an infinite number of different positions - each which slightly changes our view (and interpretation) of the sphere. What about being able to see the sphere from all possible directions simultaneously ? It would be possible only if that single viewing/vantage point of "I" was itself smeared-out over every possible viewpoint.

To see the world from an anarchistic point of view is not dissimilar to the dissolution of self required in Zen Buddhist brain bending. 1 does not divide by zero without swallowing itself in infinity. That's just where it starts to get really interesting, too - because you can use logic, infinity, relativity, metaphor and develop all sorts of interesting thought structures and systems.

Anarchism is not actually opposed to the world as it exists. It is merely another way of organising knowledge and experience, a transcendentally differing logical matrix which - if anything - could only really help the world we have and all of it's grand f ups.

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what?

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jimmyhoffa




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anarchy

is a political theory

and its not opposed to anything

is all

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"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

"It is the hole in the wheel which makes it useful." -- Lao Tzu
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How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.
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mutinyannie




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`Hell yeah, political anarchism (as opposed to social anarchism, which is not the same thing) is "opposed" to a hell of a lot.

In a leftist anarcho society, your, or any other person's freedoms would end where mine begin, and you would have to self-govern your --- in the spirit of solidarity.

In other words you you may like your --- Pistol's, and that is all good and fine, but if you live above me in a Condo, and you want to play them at 3:00 in the morning (while I need to get sleep) - and yes my forty year old --- needs her sleep... then your --- will need to turn it down or stop all together.
Why, because we are working together in solidarity and you are living in a community where you self govern rather than needing some outside authority to ask you too. Oh, and the condo community council (which is you as well) would have agreements in place to work in for the peace of the population, not JUST your right to rock all night. And yes, in most anarchist societies they would have people employed as Town Sherif's and what not, to rustle you up if you could not do it for yourself, place you in the clink, and then organize you a community meeting with the people you are in charge of working with in a democratic fashion.

Of course if you liked to rock all night you might be better suited living in a community where people never slept, or at least never slept very well, or worked the swing swing shift or something.

And if you are asking what the point of changing to a leftist anarcho society would be if you can not play your music each and every moment you wanted to, then you need to stop and look around at this world. It's is not for some vague metaphysical ideals.. we have enough flowers and sentiment's.. What good is the subjective in a very real world, with very real war's, poverty and starvation happening all around us? Not much, and in general people pretty much all ready have the "spiritual" maturity developed to treat people in a caring fasion...

You want a society where you can run your life on a local level, in co-operation and mutual aide to a group that you feel you can relate and agree with on important issues, without your life... And even more importantly the lives of others on this planet deserve to be free of the USA's tyranny (95% of military action is based on controlling money, not self defense). As a US citizen we are the main people that can change this - by revolting - and changing over to systems that can not go out into this world (on this scale) and make war for profit's ETC. ---- playing the --- Pistols at three in the morning, half the worlds population lives on less than a dollar a day because our government feeds off their money and resources.

Well, I don't mean to be to pissy here, but I'm then again I am political and not just musical... and social anarchism is different than political anarchism, so there is bound to be a lot of confusion here etc, but hell yeah - anarchism is opposed to a lot of s---!

Here check out this guy, he talks about "boundries" better than I can. He a ballet dancer of all things, but he's a well spoken anarchist too!



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Annie

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`The video did not want to embed - check out the link to Mr1001

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soundbyt




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`Anarchism is a perfect and could never be the sole ideology for an effective political structure. If one was to try and make it the sole ideology behind a union the structure will soon spin out of control, often into slavery.

That is where said boundaries come into play. They come from an addition idology of courtesy. This helps the idology from flying off the handle, by have two conflicting ideologies create an equilibrium.

A good government is one the maintains the safety of it's people and the equilibrium of it's original ideologies.

Sadly this government does neither too well and anarchism has no means to either.

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`I think that anarchism is a great theory and as a theory would work. But as soundbyt said, I think that it would not work as a political structure. I think that when anarchism would be applied as a government, it will fall apart because some people will get greedy and try to rule as a dictator or some people will take advantage of the anarchist structure.

In my opinion, perfect or good government is one that is open to change, does things for the good of people, is peaceful, reconizes when they where they are going wrong and doesn't micromanage peoples lives

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